Post by 99GenX on Oct 20, 2005 5:22:53 GMT -5
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Come to find out, I've actually had some dealings with this guy before...
Come to find out, I've actually had some dealings with this guy before...
My first hand experiences with the C3...
by BlueFish
At first glance i thought it was kind of a neat idea. However, a couple weeks ago, i had the opportunity to field test it. I have to say i was not terribly impressed. heres why:
Size: Size does matter, no matter what the ladies say, and this one is just too big for what you're getting. if they found a way to shrink it down drastically, then it'd be a lot more appealing to me at least. it was also quite heavy, especially for being made out of primarily composites.
propane aspect: very cool idea, those who stated that the combustion triggers a piston hit the nail on the head, the propane does not propell the ball, but compresses a piston, which in turn, propels the ball. the need for smaller tanks is a must. something the size of a 13 CI tank would be about as large as i'd go... smaller would be better. the fumes start to get to the head after a few strings as well...
sound: not as quiet as some of the higher end electros out there (matrix, etc) but definately a better sound sig than the rest of the tippmann line for sure.
Accuracy: the composite barrel is one of the biggest flaws in the C3. as far as i could tell, it was a unique thread pattern (if any) so the use of aftermarket barrels is one of those "i wish i could" situations. it did not help that the FPO was a particularly small breed of draxus. one break and your dead. barrel did not shoot well at all even after squeegying. the word "corkscrew" would best describe this scenario.
Pump stroke: long. and hard. not how i want my pump stroke... it felt very brass eagle talon ish. only longer and a lot more difficult, particularly on the return stroke. part of this, i'm sure is due to the nature of the propane valving, etc. It does not have a ball detent, nor anti-double feed feature as the SL line has. (once cocked, cant pump again) something not entirely bad, because i experienced several roll outs that was quickly fixed by pumping again, however, double feeding did cause many of my barrel breaks.
I found the combination of the tank, size of the gun, and a hopper to be extremely cumbersome, could be because i'm used to running either a pgp or a phantom. but hey. i'm picky. all in all a neat idea, but in need of some major changes before i'd consider adding it to my arsenol.
by BlueFish
At first glance i thought it was kind of a neat idea. However, a couple weeks ago, i had the opportunity to field test it. I have to say i was not terribly impressed. heres why:
Size: Size does matter, no matter what the ladies say, and this one is just too big for what you're getting. if they found a way to shrink it down drastically, then it'd be a lot more appealing to me at least. it was also quite heavy, especially for being made out of primarily composites.
propane aspect: very cool idea, those who stated that the combustion triggers a piston hit the nail on the head, the propane does not propell the ball, but compresses a piston, which in turn, propels the ball. the need for smaller tanks is a must. something the size of a 13 CI tank would be about as large as i'd go... smaller would be better. the fumes start to get to the head after a few strings as well...
sound: not as quiet as some of the higher end electros out there (matrix, etc) but definately a better sound sig than the rest of the tippmann line for sure.
Accuracy: the composite barrel is one of the biggest flaws in the C3. as far as i could tell, it was a unique thread pattern (if any) so the use of aftermarket barrels is one of those "i wish i could" situations. it did not help that the FPO was a particularly small breed of draxus. one break and your dead. barrel did not shoot well at all even after squeegying. the word "corkscrew" would best describe this scenario.
Pump stroke: long. and hard. not how i want my pump stroke... it felt very brass eagle talon ish. only longer and a lot more difficult, particularly on the return stroke. part of this, i'm sure is due to the nature of the propane valving, etc. It does not have a ball detent, nor anti-double feed feature as the SL line has. (once cocked, cant pump again) something not entirely bad, because i experienced several roll outs that was quickly fixed by pumping again, however, double feeding did cause many of my barrel breaks.
I found the combination of the tank, size of the gun, and a hopper to be extremely cumbersome, could be because i'm used to running either a pgp or a phantom. but hey. i'm picky. all in all a neat idea, but in need of some major changes before i'd consider adding it to my arsenol.
