Jackson
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Dewaholic
Shut up with that filthy pig latin.
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Post by Jackson on Oct 27, 2005 19:07:26 GMT -5
LilBigMan, after reading your post, I know that I am one of the ones you are talking about and I'd like to just explain my actions. At first, I did bash you guys. Why? I didn't fully understand your actions. I felt that this was just to compete with "That forum which shall remain nameless". But once I looked deeper and saw that it is about that family feeling, I understood and accepted the forum. It wasn't someone's post at "That forum which shall remain nameless" or any admin's actions. It was my own personal discovery and understanding that changed my views. I hope you don't look down on me for it any more. I want to get along.
I'll pass on the peace pipe but if you got any peace dew over there.... hehe....
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Post by LilBigMan on Oct 27, 2005 20:04:52 GMT -5
I hope you don't look down on me for it any more. I want to get along. Of course not. Like I said, I've found you guys to be fun, outgoing guys. Its just what you initially saw the forum as that stuck with me while trying to defend the den on "That forum which shall remain nameless". I hope my post doesnt come off as I look down on you guys. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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Post by Double Tap on Oct 29, 2005 13:36:47 GMT -5
I have nothing against the "That forum which shall remain nameless" or most of the people, but I'm going to stick with the A5OD. There's no tension between, but I'm not going to say that I feel the people are the same, because I don't.
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Doc
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Great Lakes Ranger
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Post by Doc on Oct 29, 2005 20:58:32 GMT -5
I also have nothing against the "That forum which shall remain nameless", but it just feels more comfy here.. We are all like family.
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Oct 30, 2005 17:05:23 GMT -5
Van, great post. I agree that the members you posted are the same great people, but some of the new mods that you didnt post seem not to be the same people. I'll take a hit from that peace pipe any day, as I have been trying to make peace since the first thread about this in the war room on "That forum which shall remain nameless". But some of the people I have learned to be mature, stand up guys, bash a few of us for being mods here, and then as soon as a few admins post in that thread, they all seem to come around and are fine with it? When the A5OD was first brought up, people are saying that it wasnt right for us to do this, how there not going to join because of it, and now they say there all good, and join over here, and I respect that, but I'm not going to forget what they initially said. So, guys, Its great for the two forum to be good with eachother, because I think this is what we all wanted. Exaltion for you guys!! Hahaha I don't know if I'm one of the new mods you speak of but I can say that you shouldn't forget what I said about what happened. I meant it then and I mean it now. The admins comments on the subject did not sway my feelings. There's no anger behind that statement, just conviction of my belief and I stand by it. I have an A5OD account because some of my team post here and I need to communicate with them. Other than that, I'll only be posting when something like this catches my eye. I hope that this isn't taken as continuing anger because it's not. I only post because I believe you are talking about me (we went back and forth in the war room). BTW, after reading some of the comments here I'd like to point out that there certainly were a lot of people who DID have something against the "That forum which shall remain nameless" a couple weeks ago, a fair amount of bashing both here and on "That forum which shall remain nameless". |
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Post by 99GenX on Oct 30, 2005 17:23:31 GMT -5
Please site these public accounts of bashing on this forum...
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Oct 30, 2005 18:05:07 GMT -5
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Post by Vashthestampede on Oct 30, 2005 18:19:35 GMT -5
I don't see really much that could be called bashing it appears to me they are the legitimate complaints of people who felt they had been wronged. THe people doing the bashing on the "That forum which shall remain nameless" were the ones who felt they had been wronged by the staff, but in all honesty whats done is done so lets just move on.
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Post by Finsec on Oct 30, 2005 19:52:09 GMT -5
Gentlemen please.
Am I happy about what happened?
No.
Am I trying to right what went on and wrong?
Yes.
Lets stop slinging arrows. Myself and the other mods are constantly pointing out the issues with the forum. Some have been repaired. Some have not(yet).
We are trying wholeheartedly to get it running.
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Post by jestertls on Oct 31, 2005 5:00:14 GMT -5
RoG, I posted in one of those threads you mentioned. That was the way I felt. Maybe it was bashing, maybe not. All depends on how you define it. I dont think so, just stating how I felt. Alot of guys felt the same way but didnt say anything. I didnt put it on the "That forum which shall remain nameless" because I really didnt want to make you guys mad, and didnt feel like getting banned. But I did feel the need to express my opinion. We were able to do that here. I do have hope for the "That forum which shall remain nameless" and have started putting a few post back on there in the last two days. Looks like you guys have gotten many of the bugs worked out. That's good. I personally think that thread was the best thing started on this site. It got a few of you Mods and Admins over on the OG's attention. It helped to get many of these issues on the table in a neutral enviroment, and a less hostile enviroment on both sides. Yes I consider the OD neutral, due to the dispute being between members and mods/admins/owner of the "That forum which shall remain nameless". You may disagree on that point and I understand. Also when I say less hostile, no one was ever hostile towards me, nor did I see hostility. Just used that term for descriptive purposes. Anyway guys, this is getting old. Lets put the past behind us. How about we all work together to make both of these sites grand. I feel the way things have worked out so far have been very productive and reassuring, at least to us members of the "That forum which shall remain nameless" that were disheartened by everything from the closing of the A5OG to the deleted post, and what ever else people have had issues with. The time has come for us to put away the hard feelings and get on with it. Which is what looks to be happening. I hope so.  |
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Post by Turtle-Prophet of Doom on Oct 31, 2005 8:56:55 GMT -5
All I can say is that, with yet another round of "You will either be part of the problem or part of the solution, your choice", I have decided to no longer view the "That forum which shall remain nameless". I have even gone so far as to suggest they just delete my account.
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Post by 99GenX on Oct 31, 2005 10:47:23 GMT -5
I don't see really much that could be called bashing it appears to me they are the legitimate complaints of people who felt they had been wronged. THe people doing the bashing on the "That forum which shall remain nameless" were the ones who felt they had been wronged by the staff, but in all honesty whats done is done so lets just move on. Very well said - I have hoped that it would not come down to the point where as there are members that choose to come in and cause a rucus just to seemingly flare tempers (this is not one of those situations though so lets not assume that I'm point fingers). What had been posted in those two threads was nothing more than expresion of a persional opinion. Van, it's your choice - Do you want this thread to be cleaned up and left be or would you rather have the entire thing locked as is and possibly moved? I don't feel it is neccisary that it be deleted, but any negative intent what so ever, expecially from a "That forum which shall remain nameless" member, does not help the supposed intent for peace in this thread. |
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Oct 31, 2005 12:30:35 GMT -5
I’ve stated over and over again that there is no anger, no bashing intended by my posts here. I am simply responding to what I believe are some inaccurate comments. With that in mind...
Quote from Wolfpack:
Posts from those threads:
Quotes from Double Tap:
I don’t consider personal attacks by Double Tap for the sake of getting himself banned to be ‘legitimate’ complaints. I also think calling "That forum which shall remain nameless" mods automatons who are not allowed to say anything negative is going too far.
Quote from Jestertls:
I only responded because I read what LilBigMan posted and felt it was inaccurate. I stated twice that there was no anger involved in my comments, just a reply to what was posted.
Quote from Asylum:
I’m not causing a ruckus, I’m commenting on something I feel is inaccurate. LilBigMan and I had a number of back and forth posts on the "That forum which shall remain nameless" so it is extremely likely he was talking about me, among others. I merely posted to tell him that I disagreed with his statement. Yes, this thread is about peace but if someone posts comments that are not true, please don’t expect someone to sit back and not respond, especially when one does so in a polite but blunt manner.
BTW, it is unfair to say I am being negative when I am simply expressing an opposing viewpoint. Have I attacked anyone? No. I have called a couple people out, showing the posts as evidence of my viewpoint, but I have not called anyone names or denigrated their character.
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Post by Trigga Nometry on Oct 31, 2005 13:27:00 GMT -5
Ooooohhhhh the drama  . It is over...the A-5OD and the "That forum which shall remain nameless" are open to ALL on the Internet. Choose one, choose the other, or choose both. Enough said. There is nothing else to be said. On a side note: I hope some of you guys are this passionate about other more important things in your lives. This is PAINTBALL people. Let's have some FUN! |
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Post by Roland of Gilead on Oct 31, 2005 13:42:20 GMT -5
With due respect, it isn't drama, it's a discussion. If someone posts something that isn't true it's completely reasonable for another person to reply with their point of view.
Seeing as people believe I am trying to stir the pot, as opposed to clarifying the facts WRT LBM's statement, I'm bowing out of this open discussion. I am still willing to discuss this in private. If anyone would like to continue this they can PM me on "That forum which shall remain nameless".
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